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Washington Women’s Heritage Project records, 1900-2000 
University of Washington Libraries Special Collections 
Myrtle Charley Landry 
1980 
Cassette 1, Side 1 
 
 
Winona Weber  00:07 
What's your name? Hannah? 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  00:11 
She don't put any together yet, and she don't seem to care for the "Hannah." 
 
Winona Weber  00:16 
Oh.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  00:17 
Yeah. I said, I wish if I could adopt her legally and all, [?as I was young enough?], I'd change her 
name from Hannah to something else.  
 
Winona Weber  00:26 
Well, what would you call her?  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  00:27 
[Baby cooing] I'd call her Jennifer, or Kimberly, or... 
 
Winona Weber  00:38 
[Laughs] Kimberly. Eh, Kimberly would be a pretty name. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  00:42 
Yeah, I like the name of Kimberly. Kim. I think she's gonna turn to-- she's gonna look more 
white than she [?is gonna be?]. 
 
Winona Weber  00:52 
[Inaudible]. Yeah. [Baby cooing]. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  00:58 
See, something's been biting her just bad on the back her neck. I don't know what it is. Look in 
the back her neck. Let her look on your neck, the back. 
 
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Winona Weber  01:10 
Come around. Oh, boy. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  01:13 
I don't know what it is. 
 
Winona Weber  01:14 
Nicole's been eaten alive by the darn bugs the last couple things, too.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  01:18 
Well, see she was in... I look in her bed, and there's nothing there. 
 
Winona Weber  01:24 
Nikki's just gotten eaten alive [inaudible]. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  01:28 
Well, they've been there and then they got her on the [?sheet?] last night. [Inaudible] what it is. 
Think the only recording you're gonna get, you're gonna be entertained by her. 
 
Winona Weber  01:40 
Yeah. She's pretty entertaining. [Baby cooing]. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  01:45 
Especially if you're getting to notice her. 
 
Winona Weber  01:51 
Okay, why don't you give your name for the recording? 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  01:57 
Do you want me to repeat all-- 
 
Winona Weber  01:59 
[Buzzing noise] Oh, gee.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  02:00 
Do you want me to repeat all that we said on the [crosstalk]?  
 
Winona Weber  02:02 
Oh, no. Just for there, so they can-- we can keep track of who's on the recording.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  02:08 
Oh, it's on now, huh?  
 
Winona Weber  02:11 
Yeah.  
 
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Myrtle Charley Landry  02:12 
My name is Myrtle Charley Landry.  
 
Winona Weber  02:18 
And you were-- were you mostly around here on the Shoalwater--?  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  02:22 
Bay Center.  
 
Winona Weber  02:22 
Bay Center. Yeah.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  02:26 
I was born in Puyallup, raised in Bay Center, Washington. Ilwaco. 
 
Winona Weber  02:35 
Were you-- did you participate in the seining, when [crosstalk]--?  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  02:40 
Yes. Yes, I-- was-- when we were on the Peacock's Spit, I was old enough to wash dishes. 
 
Winona Weber  02:47 
Yeah. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  02:50 
Leave it there! And we washed dishes and was, you know, earn enough money there in the 
summer, which, you know, was really neat. 
 
Winona Weber  03:03 
You earned extra money there for yourself, or just to help the family? 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  03:07 
No, for myself. 
 
Winona Weber  03:08 
Oh, I see. How old were you when you were doing that?  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  03:12 
I must have been 14, 15 years old. 
 
Winona Weber  03:18 
When did they stop that fishing? 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  03:20 
Gee, I wish I knew, but I couldn't really tell you. I have a paper on it, but I can't, you know, I 
don't remember days, or nothing.  
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Winona Weber  03:29 
Were you a teenager when you stopped doing that? 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  03:32 
Yes, uh-huh. I was still a young woman. Still-- I was never married when it stopped, because we 
really missed it, you know?  
 
Winona Weber  03:45 
Yeah. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  03:45 
We missed the work. 
 
Winona Weber  03:50 
You were first married when they--? 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  03:53 
No, I didn't-- I got married at 16, and I ran away.  
 
Winona Weber  03:56 
That's right.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  03:59 
So I really didn't, you know... Of course, I came home. I was only married to him once, you 
know? [Laughs]. 
 
Winona Weber  04:07 
Yeah, I know. What did Aunt Katherine do on that-- on-- when [inaudible]? 
 
04:13 
Just-- she just took care of her babies, is all. 'Cause she always had a baby, you know.  
 
Winona Weber  04:20 
Oh, yeah. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  04:21 
And I think the last one was-- must have been Thelma. [?While?] we were on the island yet, 
because when my dad went back... No, we never did go back to Ilwaco after that. There's nothing 
much you can do [inaudible]. No, it must have been Babe. Because the only time my mom 
stayed on the island was when Thelma was small. Thelma and [?Dee Dee?] were the same age. 
[Inaudible]. 
 
Winona Weber  05:02 
Yeah, that's what I thought.  
 
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Myrtle Charley Landry  05:04 
See, that's where [?Dee Dee?] was born, you know, on the island.  
 
Winona Weber  05:06 
Yeah, no, she was born, and one of Rachel's babies was born.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  05:11 
No, not Rachel's. 
 
Winona Weber  05:13 
Yeah.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  05:14 
Yeah. Rachel's baby-- 
 
Winona Weber  05:16 
One of them was.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  05:18 
[?Rawley?] was born on the island. 
 
Winona Weber  05:19 
Yeah, [?Rawley?] was born... Okay, the island you're talking about that's Peacock Spit? 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  05:23 
Peacock Spit. 
 
Winona Weber  05:24 
Yeah, that's what I thought. Did Aunt Katherine live out there?  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  05:30 
No, she didn't stay-- we-- she stayed at Ilwaco. Because she always had a small baby. 
 
Winona Weber  05:36 
Yeah. That'd be kind of tough, living out there on the Spit with a baby.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  05:41 
Well, it wasn't bad, because we lived in a float house and--  
 
Winona Weber  05:44 
Yeah.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  05:44 
--they-- the first year she stayed there, she stayed in a tent.  
 
Child (Hannah)  05:51 
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Mommy. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  05:51 
This isn't for you to play with.  And anyway, she-- it was no hardship, seems like, when we were 
there. You know, had to carry water in the-- from town same time they get groceries.  
 
Child (Hannah)  06:09 
Mom. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  06:12 
No, not to play with. Mm-mm. In fact it was a lot of fun, I thought, you know. 
 
Winona Weber  06:27 
You went down there in the summer, didn't you?  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  06:29 
Yes, we went down. Everybody-- the men folks went earlier--  
 
Winona Weber  06:34 
Yeah.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  06:35 
--got everything set up. Horses. [?Branded?], you know, [inaudible] [inaudible] [?based at?] 
Chinook River. They also had a floating stable for the horses. 
 
Winona Weber  06:48 
Yeah, that's-- I've heard that before. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  06:51 
They had to get that ready, and then everything set up. Then they start moving the women folks 
over. So everybody was moved, and then... Oh, it used to take about two or three weeks, you 
know, to get all in order, then have the kitchen all in order, water packed.  Don't pull anything 
out anymore. Here, have this one. 
 
Winona Weber  07:26 
Did you do that-- did you-- were you going down there all the time you were growing up, or...? 
Yeah-- well, yes, because my dad trawled. Before they ever seined, my dad trawled. And we 
always lived in Ilwaco from the time I was, oh, I must have been eight years old, because I can 
remember staying there when Hazel was a baby.  Yeah.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  07:56 
We lived in a tent right there at Ilwaco. And every year we-- my dad would take the tents and all 
the gear in his boat and went 'round the ocean. And we caught the mailboat and went to 
Nahcotta, caught a train, and went to Ilwaco. 
 
Winona Weber  08:16 
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Yeah, that's-- [?Auntie Green?] was telling me about going to [crosstalk]. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  08:20 
Oh, I tell you, that train ride was... we just couldn't wait. It seemed like it was enormous them 
days. When I got-- 
 
Winona Weber  08:30 
How long did it take you to get from... Where did you catch it, in Nahcotta?  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  08:33 
We caught it right at Bay Center dock. Then it would come from South Bend to Tokeland to Bay 
Center, then to Nahcotta. It took quite a while. We were the last people to get on. And then the 
train would meet us right at the dock.  
 
Winona Weber  08:52 
Yeah. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  08:52 
Then it would come in and stop. Everybody could have their lunch, you know, whatever. And it 
used to stay there for hour and a half or something like that.  
 
Winona Weber  09:04 
Where was that?  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  09:05 
At Nahcotta. 
 
Winona Weber  09:06 
At Nahcotta you'd stay.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  09:09 
Whoever can afford it would go and eat in the restaurant. Who couldn't, you know, had to buy 
some bread lunch [laughs].  
 
Winona Weber  09:15 
Or anything they carried along with them, I suppose.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  09:17 
Well, most of the time my mom made lunch, you know. That was a-- like I was me and Audy. 
And the first time would be Hazel was a baby. 
 
Winona Weber  09:31 
What would your mom usually make for a lunch like that? 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  09:33 
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Well, there's-- oh, her homemade bread. And that's all I can remember, is homemade bread and 
jam.  
 
Winona Weber  09:42 
Homemade jam. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  09:44 
And canned-- whatever she had left canned. And-- 'course there was no such thing as lunch meat, 
then [laughs].  
 
Winona Weber  09:55 
Yeah.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  09:56 
No baloney. 
 
Winona Weber  09:56 
That's what I mean. I was wondering what you guys would carry, you know to [crosstalk]. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  09:59 
It was mostly just--  
 
Winona Weber  10:01 
Homemade bread and jam?  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  10:03 
--homemade bread and jam that I can remember. 'Course I never was allowed pop, you know?  
 
Winona Weber  10:10 
Oh, no.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  10:10 
'Cause that was-- 
 
Winona Weber  10:11 
That was expensive.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  10:16 
We always had plenty apples. But the funny part of it [?Emma?] Lussier used to go on the same 
steamer we did, with Tony? 
 
Winona Weber  10:27 
Uh-huh.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  10:27 
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[?Anton?] was there [?now?] [?and?] [inaudible]? He would have a bag of cherries, and a bag of 
bananas, and a bag of peaches, and apples, and grapes. And he would eat in front of us; 'course 
we didn't know what it was, so it didn't bother us. But he would eat that continuously. He was 
five years old. And-- or maybe he was... Yeah, he was... Let's see, if I was eight, Audy was 
seven. Yeah, he must have been six years old. Then he'd get through with that, and he would 
nurse on his mother. 
 
Winona Weber  11:05 
[Laughter] Five years old, boy.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  11:07 
And he had a little fur coat. The kind that, you know, it was kind of like a teddy bear. They 
called them teddy bear coats. He had a little hat. [Laughter]. 
 
Winona Weber  11:20 
Yeah? 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  11:22 
But it never bothered us. You know, we never wished for that stuff, because we never tasted it 
[laughs]. 
 
Winona Weber  11:26 
Yeah. You really don't want something that you don't know... [?Aunt Green?] used to talk about 
a little boy that rolled over on the boat and he'd [?eat?] constantly, and she said he'd get seasick 
sometimes, too. But then his mother just sat him down and he'd eat the whole time.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  11:44 
Well, Tony ate and never quit. He never quit. And got on the train with a new supply. [Laughter] 
All the way to Ilwaco. And then he-- then the funny part, then he'd nurse on his Ma, you know. 
But I don't remember Tony ever getting sick. We'd be so glad to get to Ilwaco, and we stayed on 
the beach of Ilwaco which, you know, [?plowed up?] none different. But the big Roger Mill was 
here, and then right at the railroad track. And we stayed right in the midst here. There used to be 
a lot of trees. Then there was a park there that we got to play in, you know. So it was really neat. 
We couldn't wait to get there, because at home we didn't have that much territory to play in.  
 
Winona Weber  12:36 
Yeah, you'd either end up in the bay or in the woods.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  12:39 
Well, we mostly where we lived in Bay Center was swamp.  
 
Winona Weber  12:42 
Yeah, swamp.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  12:45 
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And we never was allowed to go up the hill. And then the kids, the three girls that lived next 
door, would push you off any high spot they'd catch you, you know? So you stayed in your own 
yard to be safe.  
 
Winona Weber  12:56 
[Laughter] Yeah, really!  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  12:58 
They pushed me off a place about 10 feet high into the blackberries. And I had sugar in this, and 
beans in this one. And they shoved me off, and I went-- of course, a dress, you know, there was 
no overalls, them days. And I knew and was afraid if I'd tear those sacks, my Ma would-- she'd 
really whip me.  
 
Winona Weber  13:22 
Yeah.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  13:22 
So if I didn't have a struggle out there to save the sugar and beans. And was I ever stressed. I 
didn't tell my Ma what those girls had done to me. And they used to be mean, oh, they were 
mean. From school, if I got out -- and I was in the same grade as two of them -- and I could run. 
Boy, when I hit that outside, I took off. Boy, they never could catch me. At one time, I had to 
bring Tom home from school. And he was such a big clumsy. He remind me of your old nephew, 
that tall skinny boy?  
 
Winona Weber  14:00 
Yeah.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  14:00 
[?Robins?]?  
 
Winona Weber  14:00 
[?Jakey?]. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  14:04 
He looks like Tom, that boy. 
 
Winona Weber  14:07 
You mean Tom Tom? 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  14:08 
Yeah, when Tom was little, that boy looks just exactly like him. Tall, skinny, and sort of--  
 
Winona Weber  14:15 
Yeah, gangly.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  14:16 
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Gangly and clumsy. Tom, oh, he couldn't run; he was a sissy, too. So here I am, and those girls 
got ahead of me, because I had to go along with him. And I run, and I seen him on the high part 
of the sidewalk. So I grabbed Tom, and there was a alley here that went out the beach. And I 
made him run. And when he couldn't run, I drug him. [Laughter]. And we got on the beach, and 
we had like, say, from here to [?Brix's?] Road to run to our gate.  
 
Winona Weber  14:59 
Uh-huh.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  14:59 
And I drug him, and he'd fall, and I'd get up. But he just couldn't run. He was such a old clumsy 
thing. And his mother used to get what they called "stogies" for shoes. They most had soles like 
that.  
 
Winona Weber  15:13 
Yeah.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  15:14 
And he had little bony legs, you know? Oh. By the time I got into Margaret George's yard then I 
was safe, see? 'Cause she had a gate. And I'd sit there and get my breath, because I didn't want 
my mom to know what I was running for. Well, this went on for years. And I used to weight my 
chances, see, you know, when they went to school, so I'd run to [inaudible]. So one day -- how I 
can remember this man's name; he was a principal of our school, Mr. [?Wehrmann?]. Some 
white people lived on the very end of Goose Point, by the name of Shipley.  
 
Winona Weber  15:53 
All these other kids were Indians?  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  15:55 
They were Indian, these three girls. And they'd-- here they come pulling-- Alberta was the 
second to the oldest of this family of girls. And she had long curly, blonde hair. And here they 
were, pulling her long hair and then kicking her in the rear end, you know, and three of them, 
they just, you know--  
 
Winona Weber  16:19 
Ganging up on her? 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  16:20 
--ganging up her, and she kept walking, you know. And I seen Mr. [?Wehrmann?] behind, and 
the girls didn't know it. And they'd yank her head, you know, then they'd kick her. Finally, he let 
them get as far as Annie Hawkes, which was the other two girls' grandmother. And he grabbed 
them. And he marched them right in there, a nd happened to be, that was Annie Hawkes's three 
granddaughters. And he marched them right in there and happened Annie Hawkes was outside 
here [?and?] Lottie. That was-- Lottie was the mother of one of the girls. And they were standing 
there talking. And he took them by the nape of the neck, and he said-- 
 
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Child (Hannah)  16:58 
[Inaudible].  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  17:01 
No, no you can't go outside. It's cold and wet.  
 
Winona Weber  17:04 
Oh, it's cold out there, sweetie. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  17:05 
Really cold.  And he said that, "These girls, they've been doing it-- 
 
Child (Hannah)  17:11 
[Inaudible].  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  17:11 
--for so long, and, you know, doing the kids..." He said, "And if you women can't take care of 
these girls and make them and teach them right," he said, "I'm placing them where they can be 
taught." Well, of course, I didn't know where. But Lottie grabbed Edith and she whipped her and 
Annie Hawkes whipped them two girls. And gee, I was so tickled-- 
 
Winona Weber  17:32 
[Laughter] I'll bet.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  17:33 
--that they got caught, you know? But I thought, "I wonder." Sure enough, they left us alone after 
that. We could go down the street and they wouldn't dare touch us. They push you off any place.  
 
Winona Weber  17:47 
Yeah. I had a friend like that. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  17:51 
I used to run... In fact I run-- I could run; I was second to the fastest boy. And I just, you know, I 
was pretty safe. But I didn't-- 
 
Winona Weber  18:04 
Poor Tom.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  18:05 
I didn't want to drag Tommy all the time. But he used to get pushed and [?licked?] by them all 
the time, because he lived below them, you know? Their house-- 
 
Child (Hannah)  18:12 
Mommy. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  18:14 
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And then and then right next to where Tom and them were staying, they lived in a little cabin 
where the [?big?]-- 
 
Child (Hannah)  18:27 
[Screams]. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  18:29 
I thought you wanted to put this on. [Inaudible].  So I was really glad when that happened, boy, 
but they sure had the [?mind?]. It wouldn't be bad but they were big, big girls. Two of them were 
in the same grade as me. 
 
Winona Weber  18:50 
Doesn't do any good to hide it behind your mama. She knows it's there. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  18:59 
So, that was one thing that really made me happy in school.  Yeah. Knowing I could go back 
[?up it?]. Tall. We had a four foot wide, and it went along. And some places it was-- well, we 
had sidewalk all over Bay Center. That one place where they pushed me off was near kind of a 
gully. And I didn't see them coming, in other words, I wouldn't have crossed.  And had to meet 
three of them right there, right away. Never told my mother or dad about it. Not once. And then 
years ago, we was having Indian meetings for Chinook and stuff. I met this one girl, and her 
mother was [?live?] [?in?]. She said, "You know Myrtle." She said, "No, I don't." She was 
married white man [inaudible]. She said, "No, I don't." I said, "[inaudible]." I said, "You know 
who the heck I am." She was just trying-- 
 
Winona Weber  20:25 
Wanna come sit on my lap?  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  20:27 
--to be stylish. And here they come, not too long ago, and wanted to know what we could prove 
how much Indian they were. Her and her sister came here. And I wasn't home, but Audy was. 
They wanted to know. And then Pearl came again! And she's the one that says she didn't know 
me. But they want to... I don't know where-- if they think where those money's coming in, or 
what. They wanted to see how much Indian they were.  Will you wait a minute? 
 
Winona Weber  21:04 
She's waving at [?Pogie?]. He just walked past; she saw him.  Let's fix your hair, huh? Let's fix 
your hair. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  21:12 
Come-- well I didn't braid it today. [Inaudible].  
 
Winona Weber  21:19 
Busy.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  21:21 
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You better-- oh, is there anything else you wanted to talk about?  Oh, no. No, no, no. You stay 
here, honey. 
 
Winona Weber  21:29 
[?Pogie?]'s busy. He's working.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  21:31 
You stay here.  
 
Winona Weber  21:33 
Let's fix your hair. Can I fix your hair? 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  21:35 
No. No, no. Put her [inaudible] down. Let her put the rubber band on it.  Is there anything else 
you wanted me to say there? 
 
Winona Weber  21:42 
Oh, yeah, all kinds of stuff. [Laughs]. Okay [inaudible].  How many white families were there in 
Bay Center, when you were living there?  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  21:50 
Well, in the Point, there was only ever one white family that lived at the Point-- oh, no, two 
families. There was Mr. Arthur Shipley and his family, and then his mother and her daughter 
lived.  Let's see. I just seen the brush here a moment ago. Oh, here's a comb.  
 
Winona Weber  22:15 
Here we go. C'mon, let's fix your hair.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  22:18 
Was the two families lived on the Point, what we called Goose Point.  
 
Winona Weber  22:22 
Yeah, I've heard of Goose Point before.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  22:23 
Mm-hmm. And not much left of it.  
 
Winona Weber  22:26 
Yeah, I know. It was kinda [inaudible].  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  22:28 
But then up on the hill, they had-- like the [inaudible] Clarks, they lived up there. They were 
Indian; he was white. 
 
Winona Weber  22:46 
Oh, yeah, she was--  
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Myrtle Charley Landry  22:48 
And that was Annie Clark. And that [?Emma?] Lussier lived 'cross the what they kinda called the 
cut off. She owned two homes there; her mother owned one, and she owned one. And then there 
were scattering-- fell on the floor. And there was a scattering of Indians mixed there, and they-- 
on the top of the hill. 
 
Winona Weber  23:17 
Is that over where-- by where [?Katherine Martin?] lives now? 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  23:21 
Well, that was the white home, what [?Katherine Martin?] has. 
 
Winona Weber  23:23 
Yeah, [inaudible].  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  23:25 
But Rachel's mother finally owned a home there they sent her to. 
 
Winona Weber  23:31 
Lizzie? 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  23:32 
Yeah. And then [inaudible] bought it.  
 
Winona Weber  23:36 
Oh, really? 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  23:37 
I don't know. So you can see how come I can braid that. 
 
Winona Weber  23:46 
Yeah, [inaudible] a haircut, too. He's up at the museum, honey. He's busy.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  23:50 
Let her put the rubber band on.  
 
Winona Weber  23:52 
Let's put a rubber band on. What you do with it? Oh. [Laughter]. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  24:00 
Let her put the rubber band on it, now.  Yeah, they had a nice home there for a while.  
 
Winona Weber  24:09 
How big a house did you live in when you guys were--? 
 
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Myrtle Charley Landry  24:11 
[?Down the Point?]?  
 
Winona Weber  24:12 
Yeah.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  24:13 
We had a new home, which when we left and let go for taxes...  
 
Winona Weber  24:21 
Oh, really?  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  24:22 
Yeah, well, it's the home now of-- was the home of [?Paul Patee?] and [?Mary Patee?], which is 
the one [inaudible][?Patee?] is living in now. Down there by the cemetery. They moved it from 
the Point.  
 
Winona Weber  24:38 
Oh. When did they move it?  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  24:41 
They moved it from the Point up to where it's located now, right by the cemetery.  Can't keep 
track of the rubber band.  
 
Winona Weber  24:48 
[Laughs] No, keep losing it. Here it is.  
 
24:52 
One more time. [Laughter] Just one more time, 'hon.  
 
Winona Weber  24:56 
There we go. Yeah, it came out. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  24:59 
Yeah. I tried to get my dad to let me bring the house over here when we decided to move.  
 
Winona Weber  25:05 
Uh-huh. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  25:05 
See, there's a house in Raymond that they moved right from Bay Center? And the Petersons 
moved theirs to Nahcotta. And I said, "Why don't we move our house to Georgetown?" It was 
brand new. 
 
Winona Weber  25:21 
Yeah, [inaudible].  
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Myrtle Charley Landry  25:22 
[Inaudible] here all the time, he didn't tell us that he didn't pay the taxes.  Just sit still now, once 
you put the rubber band on. Turn around. Look, look at that-- over there, that... Saying that she's 
gonna put the rubber band on for you. 
 
Winona Weber  25:37 
Now I got it all messed up. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  25:39 
Sit still now, for a while. 
 
Winona Weber  25:41 
Make your hair look pretty?  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  25:43 
And I really, really wanted to get our house over here. It was a big house, real big home. It was... 
I couldn't say who the size of it was, but--  
 
Winona Weber  25:58 
Is it bigger-- how much bigger is it than this one? 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  26:01 
A lot bigger. It would-- it could have had four bedrooms upstairs and one down. But we had a 
kitchen and a living room. And mom had one bedroom downstairs.  
 
Winona Weber  26:11 
Big bedrooms? 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  26:12 
Big bedrooms, and we had a big one of those kitchens that are long and narrow.  
 
Winona Weber  26:17 
Yeah. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  26:18 
And then used one end kind of for sit-- you know, for sitting, and we never quite used it, sitting 
room at all. 
 
Winona Weber  26:26 
You had that table, and everything, [?there?] in the kitchen.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  26:30 
Yeah, on one end, we had the table and the cupboard for the-- 
 
Man  26:33 
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[Door opens] Hello! 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  26:40 
For the-- well, and also, we had a pantry.  
 
Winona Weber  26:44 
Oh, yeah.  
 
Man  26:44 
Pull my hair. Pull my hair. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  26:51 
She want 'Nona to do it. 'Cause 'Nona just got [inaudible]. 
 
Winona Weber  26:54 
I just got done combing her hair.  
 
Man  26:56 
Oh.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  26:57 
And when Audy went to the orthopedic, him and Hazel, and they came home -- they went to 
orthopedic hospital, you know, and had their hips fixed.  
 
Winona Weber  27:04 
Yeah.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  27:05 
And Audy came home, and when he come from upstairs, well the pantry was right straight 
ahead. He took it for granted was the bathroom [laughs]. He went in there, he looked around, and 
he said... Well, he wanted to know where all the toilet and thing was. We don't have it. You have 
to go outside. Gee, did I wish I was in Seattle yet [laughs]. Then when Hazel came, she thought 
our pantry was-- should be the bathroom, too, and she wanted to go back to Seattle again 
[laughs]. Because it had, you know-- she didn't like the idea of going outside [laughs]. 
 
Child (Hannah)  27:15 
[Screams].  
 
Winona Weber  27:46 
Yeah, you had an outhouse. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  27:47 
Outhouse [laughing]. She didn't like it at all. Either did Audy.  
 
Winona Weber  27:53 
Apple.  
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Myrtle Charley Landry  27:53 
See, Audy was gone for... 
 
Winona Weber  27:56 
Let's fix your pants, huh? 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  27:58 
I had to pin it there, see? It's too wide.  Audy was gone for-- they must been gone for nearly two 
years.  
 
Winona Weber  28:09 
Really?  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  28:09 
Yeah.  
 
Winona Weber  28:10 
When was that?  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  28:12 
They took Hazel when she was seven. Took Audy when he was 12.  
 
Winona Weber  28:17 
Yeah.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  28:18 
And had their legs fixed. And also, later on, they took Rachel and had her leg fixed. 
 
Winona Weber  28:32 
Quit scratching that, honey.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  28:33 
Yeah. 
 
Winona Weber  28:34 
She scratched her skin off.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  28:35 
I've been putting this on it to keep it cool. Wait, now turn around, she's gonna put some on your 
neck. But I don't know how come they didn't-- they took Rachel, later, and put her in orthopedic, 
and had her leg fixed, and she'd been hurt when she was quite small. 
 
Winona Weber  29:01 
Was the problems that Audy and Hazel had...? 
 
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Myrtle Charley Landry  29:06 
It seemed to be-- well, what I thought was, that my Ma didn't have a doctor, she born those 
babies alone.  
 
Winona Weber  29:16 
By herself, yeah.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  29:17 
And she could have misplaced her hip trying to born them.  
 
Winona Weber  29:21 
Yeah.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  29:22 
You know. And then of course it just misplaced, and then we never noticed it until they started to 
walk.  Well, good [inaudible][inaudible] up, huh? 
 
Winona Weber  29:37 
[Laughs].  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  29:37 
And after we started to walk-- they walk,l and they noticed they had bad leg. Then they didn't do 
nothing about it until--  
 
Winona Weber  29:46 
They were little kids. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  29:48 
Oh, we didn't have the money, you know. And then the doctors. And finally they-- we paid for-- 
I can remember mom saving money to pay for Audy, and I can remember her paying for Hazel, 
but we never had the money to ever go see them. Never saw them in all those years they were 
gone. 
 
Winona Weber  30:12 
Oh, boy.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  30:13 
They thought-- and orthopedic, 'cause people used to come, you know, and bring them stuff; 
'course nobody else did. They thought they were orphans [laughs]. And [?Italian?] wanted to 
take Audy home--  --you know? "You should have went." I said, "You'd have been selling down 
there at the market." [Laughs].  
 
Winona Weber  30:25 
Oh. Probably pretty well off, [crosstalk] take him home.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  30:36 
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Yeah. And it was-- then Babe went afterwards to the orthopedic, and have her hip fixed. So we 
used to get to gp see her, you know, once a week. 
 
Winona Weber  30:47 
Was there someone there when you were born? 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  30:51 
Yes, my grandmother. Yeah, I was born in Puyallup.  
 
Child (Hannah)  30:54 
Daddy. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  30:57 
No, your daddy'll be down pretty soon. 
 
Winona Weber  31:00 
Yeah, he'll be down pretty soon. 
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  31:02 
[Inaudible] close the door.  Yeah, I did-- had-- my Gram took care of my mom. And then Audy, 
see, Audy was born here in Georgetown.  
 
Winona Weber  31:18 
Yeah.  
 
Myrtle Charley Landry  31:19 
And I don't know what-- 
 